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About naejeirual

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    My husband and I were talking one day about how protected and blessed our life has been... we've only had to deal with the death of a child, pornography, financial collapse, depression, and a cancerous tumor. And then we smiled realizing that God's protection and blessing is more a joy than whatever else life can throw at us.


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    servant of God - current station: wife & mother

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  1. abc! God prompted my heart to wander over here today... I didn't even know if I'd still be in the active member list! And here you are, encouraging us in the faith just as when I last posted. Thank you for your faithfulness. We just used this parable for our church's VBS program. The details are fresh in my mind and yet the application has been lost in to-do and worry-about lists. Thank you for the divinely timed and appointed reminder!
  2. abc is right in that God will direct what is right for you, your mom, and His Spirit in your "talk". As you are seeking His direction, a possible idea to consider is writing down what you want to say and then reading it to your mom. In the past I've done that to make sure I stay focused on what needs to be said instead of immediately jumping to an emotional state. The other person might be more inclined to "hear you out" too because they might feel like they ought to let you finish reading before they respond.
  3. alwaysbeready.com We had a guest speaker, Charlie Campbell, who spoke on the emerging church. His website is http://www.alwaysbeready.com. Title: The Emerging Church Scriptures: 2 Peter 2:1 "But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves." Description: He started off by saying that we wanted to leave church that day - 1. Innoculated - recognizing false teachings 2. Strengthened - armed with truth 3. Equipped - ready to give an answer to all who ask about the hope we have in Christ 1. What is the Emerging Church? - people wanting to reinvent Christianty to make it more appealing to our post-modern culture * Modernism - truth exists and it can be known by reason and science * Post-modernism - truth cannot be known with any degree of certainty - the emerging church says we have to change our message about Jesus in light of the post-modern belief that truth cannot be known, including truth about the Bible, about Jesus, about God 2. Who are it's leaders? These are the people who are the main speakers at the conferences, who author the best selling books, and who are the emerging church's spokesmen in the media: Brian McLaren, Rob Bell, Doug Pagitt, Tony Jones, Spencer Burke 3. What areas are we concerned about? - the emerging church claims that "the message of the gospel changes" and thus is insists on changing theology But the Bible says: "Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming." - Ephesians 4:14 - the Bible equips us so that we will not change teachings with the wind "We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us." - 2 Corinthians 5:20 - as ambassadors, we are charged with relaying what we have been told by Christ, not spreading a message of our own liking "...teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you." - Matthew 28:20 - we are to proclaim Christ's teachings, not edit them. "Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints." - Jude 3 - faith was delivered once for all. "I the LORD do not change." - Malachi 3:6 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." - Hebrews 13:8 "Your word, O LORD, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens." - Psalm 119:89 - the emerging church claims that the scripture is not clear and cannot be understood with any real degree of certainty because it is too mysterious But the Bible says: "Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth." - 2 Timothy 2:15 - there is a correct way to handle the word and the word is true "The law of the LORD is perfect, reviving the soul. The statutes of the LORD are trustworthy, making wise the simple. The precepts of the LORD are right, giving joy to the heart. The commands of the LORD are radiant, giving light to the eyes. The fear of the LORD is pure, enduring forever. The ordinances of the LORD are sure and altogether righteous. They are more precious than gold, than much pure gold; they are sweeter than honey, than honey from the comb." - Psalm 19:7-10 The speaker pointed out that many people complain about the Bible being difficult to understand because they ocassionally and randomly flip it open to a spot, read one paragraph, and then walk away puzzled. He told us about how he is reading the Little House on the Prarie series to his children at night and joked that if her were to randomly flip open to a page each night and then read only one page, his children would ask why the book was so confusing. "Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?" - "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,..." - Matthew 19:3-4 - Jesus expected them to have read and to have understood. God's word was plain - "but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die." (Genesis 2:17) but the serpent deceived Eve regarding God's clarity - " Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, 'You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?" (Genesis 3:1) - the emerging church says that the inerrancy of the Bible is not important - that even if some things aren't true, faith is all that matters. One of the church's leaders, (I forgot which one) wrote in a book that even if God had a human father named Larry and that if the virgin birth were just myth, it wouldn't change a thing. But that would mean that Jesus were fully human... and that would mean that we would no longer have a sinless sacrifice offered on our behalf. Instead, if the Bible can't be trusted, there is no reason to believe any of it. "Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth." - John 17:17 Jesus spoke of Jonah in the belly of the whale and of Noah and the flood as truth, not as myth. "...and the Scripture cannot be broken" - John 10:35 "I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." - Matthew 5:18 - the emerging church states "the message of the gospel changes" and they say that none of us have figured it out. But the Bible says: "Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve." - 1 Corinthians 15:1-5 "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!" - Galatians 1:8 - the emerging church does not teach of coming judgment or hell - the teach universalism... the idea that everyone goes to heaven But the Bible says: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." - Matthew 7:13-14 - the emerging church teaches that homosexual behavior is not sinful (a note from me - homosexual behavior is no more sinful than any other sin... but it's one of the only sins right now being advertised as not sinful)) But the Bible says: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable." - Leviticus 18:22 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion." - Romans 1:26-27 "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." - 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - the emerging church implements unbiblical spiritual practices * the use of icons, a representation of a sacred personage. The emerging church teaches about meditating on icons, listening to them, praying through them. But the Bible says: "Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God." - Philippians 4:6 "This, then, is how you should pray: " 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,..." - Matthew 6:9 *the use of yoga, not as a physical exercise, but as a spiritual practice of allowing energy to flow * discursive meditation - a leader guides a group through a series of images (an example from one of their books dealt with picturing Jesus, talking to Him, Him taking something from your hand, etc.... but this would mean that you are meditating on an Jesus made up in your own imagination, putting words into His mouth) - discursive meditation is totally foreign to the Bible How did it touch You: I had gone into church feeling rather oppressed by the corruption of the world around us. I left feeling encouraged that it was not all in my imagination. How can I appy it in the week to come: Also from the message - What are we to do? 1. Renew our commitment to knowing the word of God - get in the word. Study it. Meditate on the word. 2. Stay away from this movement - don't read the books or attend conferences hoping to gleam something useful. "I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them." - Romans 16:17 3. Look for opportunities to speak to other believers about the emerging church.
  4. Of course, be in prayer for your husband. For yourself. For your son. For your marriage. At this point, I can only think that you should ask your husband what his plan is - what does he require to see/hear from you in order to be ready to talk - what is his expectation about what you are to be doing right now. Would he accept a quick question or two when he picks up/drops off your son? If not, maybe write him a letter explaining a bit of what you've said here - that his leaving has opened your eyes, that you are in counseling, and that you'd like to know what he needs you to do in order for him to feel safe.
  5. At this point you might have already talked to her - but just in case: I think the empathy you mentioned is just where you need to be. Don't wait for her to ask you to lie... then she'll likely be distracted by how she's going to pull-off whatever it is she's asking you about... but arrange a good time to talk to her and just share your own experience. Tell her about the pain and chaos that lying has caused in your own life and then tell her about how much better things are now. Let her know that it was drawing close to God that opened your eyes to how destructive it really was... but that in drawing closer to Him, He really gave you the desire and the motivation to try to stop. Let her know about how you're still not perfect but that you have a new peace in being forgiven when you do fail. Even if she seems so proficient at lying, I'm sure there is a part of her that is being eaten away and she feels it. Just pray about the words you would have liked to have heard from someone caring when you were still in her shoes.
  6. I don't have any personal experience to share... mind weaned without effort from me. A blessing that I didn't (and probably still don't) fully appreciate. Lord, I ask your hand on this situation. It is you Father who have appointed a season for every thing under heaven. Please give this mom wisdom and grace to guide her son into the next season and give her son an understanding beyond his years and a sense of comfort so that he can trust her leading. Guide marshaleigh to resources that can give her practical tips and give her discernment for how to apply those tips to the relationship between she and her son. As she perseveres under the stress of the seperation, please give her extra strength to continue parenting in the best possible way. We ask this in your name Lord Jesus.
  7. Goodness! I'm so sorry. That is horrible. For now we've decided to hold off a bit... mostly for the finances.
  8. For the moment, we have went back to diapers. Two nights in a row I had taken him to the bathroom twice (once before I went to bed at like 11 and then again when I was woken by his sister aroun 1) and both nights he still ended up wet. He just doesn't seem ready in terms of his awareness. Half the time I discover him laying in a wet bed and he hasn't even woken up. We got more diapers and made the plan that on any night he wakes up dry, the next night he can try without a diaper. He seems satisfied.
  9. Moving! What an adventure. Just think of how it will be settling into our eternal home!
  10. I love this question because I ask myself regularly. I know that with Christ, all things are possible... and of course it would be His will that we would abide in Him at all times... so, I know it is possible. But, do I personally know anyone who I've witnessed or heard testimony that they abide in Him at all times? I know I don't... though I know I've grown tremendously already so that gives me hope for the future. If I live to be 60 then I've still got many more "mature" years ahead of me than behind me. Sometimes when I am reading I think that prehaps the authors of my various books may be in that place... because the scenarios they often describe as being the ones where they fail sound so routine to my life... but then again they are trying to teach people how to walk, not necessarily write a full autobiography. Brother Lawrence, the monk who's insight is recorded in the book Practicing the Presence of God, was recognized as someone who had achieved a state of being in pretty much constant abiding. I know I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. I don't know how.
  11. Amen, amen - we ask for healing in your Name Father. We ask that your Spirit might move in Bob and among those affected by his cancer. We ask that your name would be glorified. We ask that you will bring beauty from ashes. We ask that you will turn mourning into dancing.
  12. Lord, we lift this family before you and just cry out that your peace and comfort will be powerfully felt in their home. Hold them as they grieve. Give them a sense of hope to carry them through the bad spots. You count every tear and collect it into a jar. Draw them in to you right now, that they may feel your spirit in a powerful way. We ask this in the name of your Holy Son, Jesus Christ.
  13. Hey Dianna - still praying! I wanted to check back in with you too because... I hope I didn't come on too strong in my last post. I didn't mean to imply that you were ignorant of the things I was saying... about needing to really look to God on this. You are very obviously seeking the Lord on this. Love, Laurie
  14. Hi Jill, I'm Laurie - at home with Henry (3-1/2) and Charlotte (almost 2). We're not having to commit to anything formal just yet, but I am totally excited for homeschooling... of course, we homeschool from the day they are born though, right?
  15. Welcome - what a blessed mom you are! So glad to have you here and I am excited to hear of the way God has worked in your life. Always inspiring.

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